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Marek_c [Passionforbiking] Thursday 6.Jun 15:09, 2019
Looks like UCI takes an action anyway:

This spectator was there (and not in his garden with a beer) just because he LOVES cycling. He did what thousands other fans used to do at every stage and every race, ..except he was unlucky. I think most of the reactions are exagerrated and sligtly narrow minded. At the most crucial climbs of TdF the spectators stays so close, they're making a narrow tunnel. Nobody call them idiots or wish them go home, because they are the important part of the race.

Still don't see the difference between this guy and the one bringing with him urine in a jar to intentionally throw at a rider?

johnjackjoe [JohnJackJoe Racing] Wednesday 5.Jun 09:01, 2019
22th FC-manager last 6 weeks
My argument is not that Lopez shouldn't have been punished, but I just don't understand anybody defending the spectator that crashed Lopez.

The Froome Argument doesn't make any sense, as he was still on his bike. I'm sure Lopez would have continued if he was still on his bike. Duh

LosBrolin [JuhaMieto] Wednesday 5.Jun 08:45, 2019
21th FC-manager overall
Running on a narrow Giro climb is just asking for trouble and this was perfect example what could happen. Lopez's reaction was ofc stupid as well, made up in the heat of the moment. I'm not saying the penalty would have been wrong


If you decide to run next to riders and show your big enthusiasm by doing that you should at least see where you are going. This dude crashed to ANOTHER spectator which made him crash with Lopez. Big time idiot.

Itzulia fans are good example to every runner fan out there. Big cheering but always respectful towards riders.

goon1221 [] Wednesday 5.Jun 08:11, 2019
19th FC-manager overall
See, this is an argument... 100% agree Marek...
I love Lopez ... he is an aggressive rider who makes this sport fun to watch, but in this case he used his aggressiveness very very wrong... of course he should be punished for this ... and that makes 3 idiots ... the spectator, Lopez and the organizer....

Marek_c [Passionforbiking] Tuesday 4.Jun 22:50, 2019
Well, don't get upset: I'm just trying to put this in a perspective:
You can not call "that one guy" an idiot and others not, just because this one had bad luck and get punched by another spectator and fell out to the road. I totaly agree that he was not carefull enough and this had big consequences, BUT some "nerdy" fans used to run beside the riders, wave flags and do other stupid things what (in their opinion) express their entusiasm about cycling.
Riders need to deal with it ..or find another job, because that how they get paid: those "nerdy" fans are a product of a popularity of this sport, and the popularity is absolutely necessary for professional cycling to exist.

This guy throwing urine at Froome because he did not like Sky - THAT was an idiot. And what did Froome do? Did he stopped and wrestled the spectator? Continued riding and won the whole race :)

fjellda [El pistolero] Tuesday 4.Jun 16:24, 2019
where did the giro-fantasy go? cant find it?

Aragonite [TORA TORA TORA] Tuesday 4.Jun 15:32, 2019
26th FC-manager overall
I agree with the opinion that the spectator was an idiot, but still think Lopez should have been thrown out of the race. The rule is there. At what level of a beating does a spectator have to suffer before the rule is invoked?

LosBrolin [JuhaMieto] Tuesday 4.Jun 15:18, 2019
21th FC-manager overall
Don't forget : We have plenty of people here who have been watching the races on spot...but there's a way to do that without causing any hassle. This idiot was clearly not aware of that.

johnjackjoe [JohnJackJoe Racing] Tuesday 4.Jun 15:15, 2019
22th FC-manager last 6 weeks
Dude, what? Don't absolve that spectating fuckface from any fault. Of Course he didn't want to crash Lopez, but it was absolutely preventable and only due to his idiocy it could happen at all. The reason Cycling exists are the 99,9999% other fans that watch that stage and didn't run next to the riders.

I am calling that one guy (and the others that run along) idiots. Where did I call people with facepaint idiots? You for real? :D

Marek_c [Passionforbiking] Tuesday 4.Jun 15:09, 2019
Yes johnjackjoe, the spectator did not do this on purpose, this was an accident, Lopez choose voluntary to stop and waste time instead of chasing the GC group, knowing it will not gain him anything. So.. who is the idiot here? :)

Dont forget: those fans that show up hours before race, get excited and run along the roads with flags, costumes, facepaint (which you call idiots) are actually number 1 reason for professional cycling to even exist. :)

LosBrolin [JuhaMieto] Tuesday 4.Jun 15:00, 2019
21th FC-manager overall
What was spectator if not a massive tool? Hope he learned a lesson and stays home next time.

johnjackjoe [JohnJackJoe Racing] Tuesday 4.Jun 13:59, 2019
22th FC-manager last 6 weeks
The only idiot was Lopez? Seriously? Vigilantism is wrong, but the spectator was definitely a huge idiot.

Marek_c [Passionforbiking] Tuesday 4.Jun 13:28, 2019
Understandable ..but still wrong.
It is ridiculous how people in social media defend him and call the spectator an idiot. The only idiot there was Lopez wasting precious seconds on giving lecture to a random spectator.

Erythropoietin [Erythropoietin] Tuesday 4.Jun 10:25, 2019
12th FC-manager overall - 10th FC-manager last 6 weeks
According to the rules he should have been eliminated from the race.

But I'm glad that didn't happen. His reaction was very understandable.

Marek_c [Passionforbiking] Tuesday 4.Jun 09:00, 2019
I must say, I'm impressed by Carapaz, but I wonder if the peloton actually got surprized as well. They let him go so easily on stage 14, as it was an outsider fighting for a stage win.
I'm also surpsized that Lopez did not get fined for beating a spectator.

Erythropoietin [Erythropoietin] Monday 3.Jun 14:41, 2019
12th FC-manager overall - 10th FC-manager last 6 weeks
1000 for the season comp, 500 for the monthly standing

johnjackjoe [JohnJackJoe Racing] Monday 3.Jun 14:25, 2019
22th FC-manager last 6 weeks
Was the fantasy GT always halfpoints towards the total? I thought the winner gets 1000

Koronin [Koronin] Sunday 2.Jun 20:10, 2019
Congrats to Haga winning the final TT and getting his first Grand Tour stage win.

Aragonite [TORA TORA TORA] Sunday 2.Jun 17:27, 2019
26th FC-manager overall
If only Nibali had known that he would beat Roglic by 3secs in the final ITT. :)

goon1221 [] Sunday 2.Jun 17:20, 2019
19th FC-manager overall
No sorry ... that was stage 13 .... same scenario though ... Nibali and Roglic was looking at eachother even then... the stage zakarin looked like a serious podium guy ...

goon1221 [] Sunday 2.Jun 17:18, 2019
19th FC-manager overall
Yeah ... I suspected that stage would be crucial... I asked the question at that point ... didn't quit belived it, but still ... someone take advantage when favourites are looking at eachother

Aragonite [TORA TORA TORA] Sunday 2.Jun 17:12, 2019
26th FC-manager overall
So Carapaz wins by less time than that Nibali and Roglic gifted him on stage14.

Aragonite [TORA TORA TORA] Sunday 2.Jun 17:07, 2019
26th FC-manager overall
Who would of thought? Sunweb. :)

goon1221 [] Sunday 2.Jun 16:55, 2019
19th FC-manager overall
Ups... Landa lose 20 sec to Roglic ... I redraw my prediction :D

Andy [Luxembourg Finest] Sunday 2.Jun 16:53, 2019
Landa to lose podium with 1 sec again?

goon1221 [] Sunday 2.Jun 16:52, 2019
19th FC-manager overall
Yeah ... Roglic just passed the intermediate 15 sec behind Haga... that is a tired Roglic

goon1221 [] Sunday 2.Jun 16:50, 2019
19th FC-manager overall
One exciting thing today... Can Landa keep podium ? ... I think so ...

Koronin [Koronin] Sunday 2.Jun 05:13, 2019
I think at this point unless Carapaz crashes he wins the Giro in the ITT. Landa has a fight on his hand for that 3rd podium spot. I'm not sure he can hang onto it with a 23 second lead. It is possible that Roglic is just too spent to be able to pull that much time back from Landa even with Landa being a not good time trialist.

goon1221 [] Saturday 1.Jun 19:16, 2019
19th FC-manager overall
Sure ... this is violence ...

Aragonite [TORA TORA TORA] Saturday 1.Jun 19:11, 2019
26th FC-manager overall
If it had happened in the UK, the police would probably be involved.

goon1221 [] Saturday 1.Jun 19:07, 2019
19th FC-manager overall
Actually ... he should be kicked out of the race

Aragonite [TORA TORA TORA] Saturday 1.Jun 19:03, 2019
26th FC-manager overall
Just seen it. Not great for the sport. And I bet that clip goes viral.

goon1221 [] Saturday 1.Jun 17:23, 2019
19th FC-manager overall
Lopez is violent i must say :D ... WOW ... he actually beat up a spectator there :D kicking and hitting... and some yelling also i suppose :D

Aragonite [TORA TORA TORA] Saturday 1.Jun 17:12, 2019
26th FC-manager overall
I remember the first time I ever heard of Carapaz. I never knew of this site at the time, but did play fantasy on roadcc. It was the first race of the season San Luis three or four years back, and Jesper on cyclinghub did a review of the race with a South American guy who was supposedly well up n the racing scene over there. This guy said Carapaz could be the next big thing on the WT from the SA's. Like a fool I put him in my San Luis, he finished outside the top fifty. Wish I had put him in my 2019 Giro team from the outset. :)

goon1221 [] Saturday 1.Jun 14:02, 2019
19th FC-manager overall
Movistar 1 Movistar 2 :D

goon1221 [] Saturday 1.Jun 09:52, 2019
19th FC-manager overall
Nibali 1.54 behind Carapaz .... yeah, only a bad day or an accident can deny Carapaz this win now.... but then again, stranger things has happened before... who sat their money on Froome to win Giro before stage 19 last year ? :D
With that in mind, and the fact that it would be wierd if Nibali by now is satisfide with podium, and by the looks of todays profile, this looks like quit a similar scenario .... I guess we should expect something like this ... Nibali needs to take 1.30 ish on today's stag on Carapaz to make this interesting for tomorrow's ITT, and to wait for the last 2 " easy " climbs today will not do it, and maybe not even the last 3 challenges of the day ... so that leaves Passo Manghen ... Nibali will have to send out at least Antonio, Caruso and/or Pozzovivo in the early breakaway, and make a HUGE attack on Passo Manghen with summit 116 km togo ... wow Nibali ... i hope you have a good day today ... it's gonna be long :D

sker [Team Paracarri] Wednesday 29.May 17:28, 2019
If the results are correct and for two days in a row I got second place in the stage manager I'm gonna curse :D Was hoping for that consolation prize really.

Anyway today was not Nibali stage at all, he suffers short climbs and maybe was a little fatigued by yesterday. Friday and especially Saturday are the real test for him. He needs a minute at least

Andy [Luxembourg Finest] Wednesday 29.May 17:16, 2019
Nice attack today, but no big time gaps, but just gives more confidence to Movistar to see that Nibali was not following Carapaz when he attacked although 7 seconds is nothing to be worried about.

Marek_c [Passionforbiking] Wednesday 29.May 08:31, 2019
Yes I still think Carapaz is not gonna win ..though I've never said I'm "sure" :)

Assassin [Troy The Trader] Tuesday 28.May 22:10, 2019
25th FC-manager overall
We all know Polanc is readying a grand attack to win by 35 mins and hold pink till the end... oh wait my dreams again.

Andy [Luxembourg Finest] Tuesday 28.May 21:42, 2019
Landa is too loyal :P But just look at Giro'15 and Tour'17 and he did the same even though it was pretty obvious he was stronger than his captains there and also today, but Carapaz was stronger in the weekend so kinda fair this time.

goon1221 [] Tuesday 28.May 21:36, 2019
19th FC-manager overall
Landa was pretty loyal today Andy ... you are disappointed i guess :D
Although, I'm not sure he had much to go with anyway ...
Marek... still sure about Carapaz not win this ?

Aragonite [TORA TORA TORA] Tuesday 28.May 18:35, 2019
26th FC-manager overall
Sir Bradley really ripped into Engels post race. Very funny.

Aragonite [TORA TORA TORA] Tuesday 28.May 15:59, 2019
26th FC-manager overall
#extreme sport :)

Aragonite [TORA TORA TORA] Tuesday 28.May 15:57, 2019
26th FC-manager overall
Watching the descent of the Motorola, and the next cat descent is what I'm looking forward too. Should be edge of the seat stuff.

goon1221 [] Tuesday 28.May 15:51, 2019
19th FC-manager overall
Mortirolo guys :D ... what a brutal climb this is ... 12 km 11% max 18 ...

Assassin [Troy The Trader] Tuesday 28.May 00:38, 2019
25th FC-manager overall
Reality: Landa's usual bad luck gets him, crashes and then he loses 20 mins :D

Andy [Luxembourg Finest] Tuesday 28.May 00:14, 2019
Big wish for tomorrow; Landa attack without permission from team, just saying #FreeLanda

johnjackjoe [JohnJackJoe Racing] Monday 27.May 21:51, 2019
22th FC-manager last 6 weeks
I went full GC climber for week 3 now. Ackermann will have to do it for my other fantasy team. Still surprised that I'm first with Ack+Richie. I should leave more often halfway through.

Marek_c [Passionforbiking] Monday 27.May 20:37, 2019
This will be pure gambling for me.. I kept Majka since I pick him at the beginning. Depending on the shape this week, he could reach the podium ..or drop to the bottom of top10.
I pick Carapaz even if I don't believe he will win. I hope he will still show off and keep his jersey for 2-3 more stages.
Regret putting Nibali only at 80% spot. I guess he still needs to regain at least 3 minutes on Roglic, so I expect fireworks on both acsents and descents.. Hope everyone stays safe!

sker [Team Paracarri] Monday 27.May 20:11, 2019
I still see a Nibali vs Roglic scenario for the win, but the duo Crapaz and Landa can make things interesting if they work togheter with proper team tactics.
The top 10 battle will be furious also beacuse we have Yates and Lopez in good shape but far behind in GC who have to try something.
Interesting to see how Sivakov will hold on for the white jersey competition and if Ackermann have recovered enough to battle with Demare for ciclamino jersey

goon1221 [] Monday 27.May 19:05, 2019
19th FC-manager overall
My 4th guy on the table :D ... this was a 30 second pick list . . I am 186th :D ... the train has left the platform :D

Aragonite [TORA TORA TORA] Monday 27.May 18:22, 2019
26th FC-manager overall
Pretty dull too. :) Like mine, only I'm going Ciccone rather than Demare.

goon1221 [] Monday 27.May 17:44, 2019
19th FC-manager overall
Only Demaré for the jersey point and podium on the flat stage ... but i agree it's not a sure thing that one ... we'll see ... the two others are Sivakov for trying to keep the youth Jersey and stay up there GC, and Majka ... no monkey business here :D

Andy [Luxembourg Finest] Monday 27.May 17:09, 2019
I wish we had more strict press censorship now!


Aragonite [TORA TORA TORA] Monday 27.May 17:04, 2019
26th FC-manager overall
How many sprinters you having in week 3 then goon? :)

goon1221 [] Monday 27.May 16:58, 2019
19th FC-manager overall
I bet Jungels pick up a stage now that i drop the out of shape bastard :D

goon1221 [] Monday 27.May 16:56, 2019
19th FC-manager overall
Thought you said : no over thinking Aragonite ? :D

Aragonite [TORA TORA TORA] Monday 27.May 16:52, 2019
26th FC-manager overall
Not going to be too many teams ready to bring back the break on stage 18. Even FDJ probably won't be too keen, as no mass sprint would probably give Demare the points jersey.

johnjackjoe [JohnJackJoe Racing] Monday 27.May 16:41, 2019
22th FC-manager last 6 weeks
Can't get myself to drop Ackermann, but I feel like it's not worth it to keep a sprinter for week 3, or if then you have to take Demare due to the jersey points.

Aragonite [TORA TORA TORA] Monday 27.May 13:58, 2019
26th FC-manager overall
Carapaz is a strong favourite with the bookmakers.

Aragonite [TORA TORA TORA] Monday 27.May 13:52, 2019
26th FC-manager overall
Just made the dullest of transfers, but after overthinking the last ones, they were necessary.

Marek_c [Passionforbiking] Monday 27.May 12:53, 2019
Nobody expected from a rookie in his first Gran Tour (as GC) to have "full control". Nibali has huge advantage in term of experience. That is why I mean Roglic rides "smart" despite not being the strongest climber.

For the same reason I didn't get euforic about Carapaz. He isn't strong man of the race, he just did two decent stages. His advantage may hold for podium, but if Landa gets closer, the Movistar "multi-captain" strategy will spoil Carapazs chances. Nibali has Pozzovivo Lopez has Izaguirre and Cataldo, Majka has Formolo. There is no such loyality in Movistar - a moment of weakness and its over. Nobody does a pedal stroke for a struggler high in GC.

goon1221 [] Monday 27.May 12:32, 2019
19th FC-manager overall
Besides ... I am yet to see Roglic as a top notch worldclass climber... he still got something to prove in that area ...
Let me add .... in the really long climbs coming up

goon1221 [] Monday 27.May 11:55, 2019
19th FC-manager overall
Some good points there Marek... I agree Roglic deserves benefit of doubt with Tolhoeks bike, and maybe that caused his mistakes in the downhill also ...
But it still feels like he is not in full controll here anymore ... I thought so the day before also ... couldn't see any particular sign of weaknesses, but still... just a feeling
When it comes to Carapaz .... yeah, maybe he his a little " desp " ... but WOW, you can't deny he looks like the strong man of this race atm.
Nibali ... well, his GT history sais it all, he WILL be strong last week, and if it's true Roglic is weaker now, he will drop in the long climbs here ... no doubt about that ... well, we'll see what happens :)) ... CAN'T WAIT :D

Andy [Luxembourg Finest] Monday 27.May 11:50, 2019
I am waiting on the #FreeLanda big attack on Mortirolo and what Movistar does when they realize they have the two best climbers in the race

Marek_c [Passionforbiking] Monday 27.May 10:58, 2019
I disagree on Carapaz being favourite. Yes, he is very brave now, because - as many pointed out - he desperately needs to gain time before ITT, and I'm afraid he will need to pay for that (as Mollema and Zakharin did).

Also disagree on Roglic showing weakness: He had a mechanical at the worst moment, and started the crucial climb on the bike from Tolhoek, (because his directeur sportiff was taking a pee). Yet he managed to get back, and even distance some of the GCs ...before he crashed.
I think he is riding very smart: he knows, he just need to keep Nibali away, and stay out of trouble. The rest of GCs can't match him on ITT.

Nibali most likely is preparing a massive attack on the last climb (as he did in 2016) to gain enough on Roglic. At this point many of the "brave boys" so far will suffer. The rider that still will have fresh legs to hang on Nibali, will take the third podium spot. I would say Landa, Lopez, Yates, ..maybe Majka.

goon1221 [] Monday 27.May 10:17, 2019
19th FC-manager overall
Advice to Carapaz though ... don't just suck Nibalis wheel for a week ... work with him

goon1221 [] Monday 27.May 10:16, 2019
19th FC-manager overall
He must be first favourite in my point of view

Roglic : couldn't follow Nibalis attack in a climb that normally suits him very well yesterday ... this is his first sign of weakness, and that's bad timing before monster week ... lost his cool in the downhill and made mistakes
Hats off if he wins this now ... I don't think so

Nibali : 1.47 behind Carapaz ... but he will be better in week 3, and he probably beats Carapaz with 30 + seconds on the timetrail
I can see him win

Carapaz : He showed in Vuelta 2017 and Giro last year ( stage 19 ) that he finish off a 3 week race very well
He seems very hungry and not afraid of winning this, and with 1.47 in the bank, his job is quit easy ... stay on Nibalis wheel :D ... I bet Nibali would looooove that :D
I think just an accident can take this away from

Koronin [Koronin] Monday 27.May 03:50, 2019
I agree, Carapaz has to be right up there as at least one of the 3 favorites. He has a very good chance to win it now.

goon1221 [] Sunday 26.May 17:19, 2019
19th FC-manager overall
Now Carapaz is favourite ... if he stays on his wheels and keep up with Nibali in the climbs, he win Giro ...

Andy [Luxembourg Finest] Sunday 26.May 14:50, 2019
Roglic only wants to not lose time to Nibali, doesn't care anything about any else. If he continue like that he will lose this race.

Aragonite [TORA TORA TORA] Sunday 26.May 14:43, 2019
26th FC-manager overall
Pleased it's good for someone. :) Looks like it's going to be a dull watch though.

Erythropoietin [Erythropoietin] Sunday 26.May 14:33, 2019
12th FC-manager overall - 10th FC-manager last 6 weeks
Good for my Velogames team if Cattaneo makes it. All 9 men have performed except the Luxembourger.

Aragonite [TORA TORA TORA] Sunday 26.May 14:24, 2019
26th FC-manager overall
Beginning to look like the peloton is racing for third place.

goon1221 [] Sunday 26.May 13:49, 2019
19th FC-manager overall
Hah.... a little surprised by the small breakaway i must say ...

goon1221 [] Sunday 26.May 10:15, 2019
19th FC-manager overall
But ... if I dare look ahead a little bit ... we got 3 more top finishes left, and if nothing change in the current hierarchy climbing-wize, i can't for the life of me see how Carapaz NOT will gain at least a minute and a half on Roglic befor the ITT ... but then again, this is not math :D

goon1221 [] Sunday 26.May 09:54, 2019
19th FC-manager overall
Yeah... no reason for Movistar to change tactics just yet

Koronin [Koronin] Sunday 26.May 00:01, 2019
Carapaz still needs more time before the ITT if he wants a shot at winning the Giro. He and Landa will both lose time to both Nibali and Roglic. I do expect Movistar to keep racing the way they have been due to needing more time.

sker [Team Paracarri] Saturday 25.May 21:01, 2019
Now Movistar gets a chance because they have a strong team. However I'm not sure about Carapaz in the long run, we will see.
Nibali nedds to get 3 min on Roglic in the 3rd week and he knows it.

LosBrolin [JuhaMieto] Saturday 25.May 18:31, 2019
21th FC-manager overall
Good bye solid Giro record. Bob was horrible pick :(

goon1221 [] Saturday 25.May 17:47, 2019
19th FC-manager overall
Roglic really ride with his brain ... couldn't spot particular weaknesses, but still it feels like I'm waiting for it :D
If that happens, i think Carapaz wins this thing...

Aragonite [TORA TORA TORA] Saturday 25.May 17:33, 2019
26th FC-manager overall
Since we hit some mountains this race has changed dramatically day by day. It's great. :)

Aragonite [TORA TORA TORA] Saturday 25.May 17:19, 2019
26th FC-manager overall
Yates showing northern grit.:)

goon1221 [] Saturday 25.May 16:06, 2019
19th FC-manager overall
I think jumbo do the best of what they got today ... make sure Hammilton Amador, Izaguirre and Caruso doesn't get much time to recover if/when Yates, Landa/Carapaz, Lopez and/or Nibali attacks soon ...

Aragonite [TORA TORA TORA] Saturday 25.May 15:28, 2019
26th FC-manager overall
Nibali, 'If Roglic follows me home I will show him all the GT trophies I have won'. The Shark at his finest. :)

Aragonite [TORA TORA TORA] Saturday 25.May 15:13, 2019
26th FC-manager overall
Think they all are. That start was just a tease :)

goon1221 [] Saturday 25.May 14:43, 2019
19th FC-manager overall
He gotta feel that today :D

goon1221 [] Saturday 25.May 14:40, 2019
19th FC-manager overall
Wow... Just heard... Carapaz took 1.30 on Nibali and Roglic last couple of km yesterday.... ONE THIRTY :D ... wow

Andy [Luxembourg Finest] Saturday 25.May 13:36, 2019
What a start of the stage

goon1221 [] Saturday 25.May 09:42, 2019
19th FC-manager overall
I agree ... and the same goes for Nibali if he wants to win this ... shoulder to shoulder with Roglic ( unless Roglic got a bad day ofc. ) will not do it for Nibali... so also Nibali needs to go a little crazy :D .... but for the sake of the case, let's hope Roglic and Nibali do like they did today for a couple of more mountain stages, and Landa, Carapaz and Majka continue their offensive riding... then we will have a really fun last week here :D
Mollema and Zakarin also got some interesting things going, but I like to see them in the favourite group before i make opinion ( Mollema lost alot last km's yesterday, Zakarin took time on Landa, but so did Roglic and Nibali, and Carapaz most likely with the best couple of km's ) ... Mollema also droped in the end of Montoso, so he don't look like a podium guy atm. ... not to mention Lopez that got alot of freedom right now ... maybe a comeback today

sker [Team Paracarri] Saturday 25.May 04:34, 2019
Giro is still between Nibali and roglic unless something crazy happens. But finally the riders that are behind in Gc figured out that tahey need to attack to have an outside chance that somebody screws something up.
Aggressive racing is the only way for them

Koronin [Koronin] Friday 24.May 19:42, 2019
The Landa we've been waiting for since he joined Movistar has finally shown up.
Movistar showed today they actually do know how to use good tactics.

Andy [Luxembourg Finest] Friday 24.May 17:41, 2019
Ilnur wins and it's third consecutive win to nr.181

goon1221 [] Friday 24.May 17:30, 2019
19th FC-manager overall
I mean, if Nibali an Roglic continues looking at eachother, they will have bigger problems ahead

LosBrolin [JuhaMieto] Friday 24.May 17:30, 2019
21th FC-manager overall
Movistar 1&2 on final GC would be fun. Ilnur completing the podium.

Andy [Luxembourg Finest] Friday 24.May 17:26, 2019
Big party confirmed. Just need that Maglia Rosa also on the right man :D

goon1221 [] Friday 24.May 17:22, 2019
19th FC-manager overall
I thought Carapaz droped ... but instead he crushed Nibali and Roglic ... wow ... is he gonna win this thing ? Ahead of Landa :D

LosBrolin [JuhaMieto] Friday 24.May 17:08, 2019
21th FC-manager overall
Andy is having a party today

LosBrolin [JuhaMieto] Friday 24.May 17:02, 2019
21th FC-manager overall
and now he is dropping Nibali and Roglic :o

LosBrolin [JuhaMieto] Friday 24.May 16:53, 2019
21th FC-manager overall
Sivakov still there. Impressive

Andy [Luxembourg Finest] Friday 24.May 15:09, 2019
Roglic isolated already while Astana has 4 domestiques left, hope this will be another good stage

Andy [Luxembourg Finest] Friday 24.May 10:08, 2019
I was until Bob turned out to be shit on climbing this year :D

Partykjeppen [Il Piccolo Gregari] Friday 24.May 09:37, 2019
Haha - Mareczko OOT

Partykjeppen [Il Piccolo Gregari] Friday 24.May 09:16, 2019
Astana looking like they're bringing their 2015-game whilst Mitchelton keeping their powder dry for later stages looks like a mouthwatering prospect for the remaning mountain stages.

Formolo and Bilbao the big disappointments yesterday. Majka looking frisky though...

Who else are enjoying Quick Step's barren spell?

Assassin [Troy The Trader] Thursday 23.May 23:12, 2019
25th FC-manager overall
Yep thanks for that mate! :D

Aragonite [TORA TORA TORA] Thursday 23.May 22:12, 2019
26th FC-manager overall
He is 4/6 now to finish top ten GC. Also have Kangert at 7's for top ten, he is now 5/6. So that's the kiss of death for the pair. :)

Assassin [Troy The Trader] Thursday 23.May 21:37, 2019
25th FC-manager overall
Probably won't be in Pink by tomorrow evening but still Jan seems to save his best for the Giro and Pink Jersey is nice to add to the Abetone & Etna stages. And I now throw the door open to the Operation Aderlass banter that i expect will come from at least one of u :D

Assassin [Troy The Trader] Thursday 23.May 21:27, 2019
25th FC-manager overall
I've just watched it. Beautiful interview :)

Aragonite [TORA TORA TORA] Thursday 23.May 20:05, 2019
26th FC-manager overall
Your boy did you proud Assassin. Try to watch his interview with Matt Stephens if you can, they might not show it on the highlights because of the language used. It was funny. :)

Tomas [Second Coming] Thursday 23.May 18:47, 2019
13th FC-manager overall - 20th FC-manager last 6 weeks
Polanc in pink I reckon? Haven't even checked but will do now!

Assassin [Troy The Trader] Thursday 23.May 18:31, 2019
25th FC-manager overall
I'm sooo happppyyyyy :D

Aragonite [TORA TORA TORA] Thursday 23.May 18:13, 2019
26th FC-manager overall
DS to Polanc, 'You have to get into the break today Jan'. Polancs reply to DS, 'Fucker'. :)

Aragonite [TORA TORA TORA] Thursday 23.May 17:28, 2019
26th FC-manager overall
Great interview from Polanc. :)

goon1221 [] Thursday 23.May 16:50, 2019
19th FC-manager overall
Landa at his best always looks like he's on a Sunday trip :D ... hopely we'll see alot of it the next days ...

Andy [Luxembourg Finest] Thursday 23.May 16:38, 2019
Landa of course the strongest, finally a GT win incoming for him :)

Aragonite [TORA TORA TORA] Thursday 23.May 16:35, 2019
26th FC-manager overall
Landa looked the strongest on that cat.1, by a fair bit.

Aragonite [TORA TORA TORA] Thursday 23.May 16:32, 2019
26th FC-manager overall
Fancy Montaguti, if these eight come to that final mini wall.

goon1221 [] Thursday 23.May 16:26, 2019
19th FC-manager overall
got two of my wishes.... dangerous guys ahead and isolated Roglic ... let's see if they can hold it ... Yates is playing the waiting game it seems

Francisco [K92-Team Neverland] Thursday 23.May 15:23, 2019
I guess we all thought about him when we looked at the virtual maglia rosa... :)

Andy [Luxembourg Finest] Thursday 23.May 15:09, 2019
Best to not tell him what is going on now :)

Aragonite [TORA TORA TORA] Thursday 23.May 15:08, 2019
26th FC-manager overall
Think this is the first year he didn't pay stupid money for him in the auction.

Andy [Luxembourg Finest] Thursday 23.May 15:06, 2019
Don't tell that to our Polanc superfan ;)

Aragonite [TORA TORA TORA] Thursday 23.May 15:05, 2019
26th FC-manager overall
*George Bennett*

Aragonite [TORA TORA TORA] Thursday 23.May 15:03, 2019
26th FC-manager overall
Having a pretty uninspiring attempt at the Classic Fantasy game, but my odds of 12/1 Jan Polanc to finish in the top ten GC looking better by the minute. Now watch him crash out. :) That's what happened to George Benne a couple of years back, when I backed him for a top ten and it was looking promising.

Marek_c [Passionforbiking] Thursday 23.May 13:23, 2019
The manager game drives me crazzy :) I just moved Ackerman to a 120% spot after a week of total domination, then he crashed.. Also I put Demare only at 80% then he won a stage and became no1 candidate to ciclamino. Selected Ewan.. he won a stage.. and left Giro.

In GC, I had no clue, and bravely left my team unchanged. Lets hope Yates, and Superman go bananas to regain the loss.
If you don't choose GC at the beginning, there is probably no point doing it now. GCs focus rather on distancing other GCs, not necessarily winning a stage, and you will not receive any bonus for final clasification either.

goon1221 [] Thursday 23.May 10:24, 2019
19th FC-manager overall
Today ... after 2 weeks of forgetable Giro, it's time to open up the crazy
I mean, the sits, the profile and this easy strength saving Giro so far, should have it's turning point today and show us that Giro is still Giro... not a bad copy of TdF
I want gaps, i want dangerous guys ahead, i want an isolated Roglic in trouble and a tighter GC :D

Aragonite [TORA TORA TORA] Wednesday 22.May 23:20, 2019
26th FC-manager overall
Only in GT'S. Two lots of transfers available. Best read the rules for the hows and whens.

bminchow [Man Chow] Wednesday 22.May 22:59, 2019
Whoa. So we can change our lineups? i did not see a way to do that. Buggery!

goon1221 [] Wednesday 22.May 20:09, 2019
19th FC-manager overall
Excited about Axelgaard's preview of tomorrow's stage ... in theory this can really be a circus stage ... say Bilbao is Astana leader now, and Carapaz is Movistar leader, and Yates is on fire .... that could really leave an interesting scenario... in theory :D

Aragonite [TORA TORA TORA] Wednesday 22.May 15:51, 2019
26th FC-manager overall
What is Selig playing at???

guest4126 [team_guest4126] Wednesday 22.May 09:02, 2019
It will happen.

guest4126 [team_guest4126] Wednesday 22.May 09:00, 2019
1 - Nibali
2 - Landa
3 - Supermann
4 - Yates
5 - Carapz
Roglic somewhere between 10 and 15

Tomas [Second Coming] Tuesday 21.May 19:25, 2019
13th FC-manager overall - 20th FC-manager last 6 weeks
@johnpnewman: thanks for posting. Kind of forgot that the race-year-id had to be added in the update-thingy for stage races. Fixed.

Aragonite [TORA TORA TORA] Tuesday 21.May 19:23, 2019
26th FC-manager overall
Same here. Have been credited with pts for Caleb, who I transferred out.

johnpnewman [Road Rash] Tuesday 21.May 19:12, 2019
I don't think the scoring is correct for stage 10. For me, Viviani = 100 points; Ewan 50 points; Ackerman 10; Demare = 80 points. So for my sprinters alone, is 240 points. But based on the stage scoring, Roadrash only scored 118. points. When I add the score using ,my part 1 team the score is 117.8. Looks like the system is using part 1 team to score part 2 races.

Aragonite [TORA TORA TORA] Tuesday 21.May 18:31, 2019
26th FC-manager overall
Bringing all sprinters in was the sensible choice with transfers. Seems I have no sense. ;) Over thinking again.

goon1221 [] Tuesday 21.May 18:22, 2019
19th FC-manager overall
:D ... yes he did ... but with thoes wounds on his tie and arm/shoulder, he might very well lose it tomorrow

Aragonite [TORA TORA TORA] Tuesday 21.May 18:17, 2019
26th FC-manager overall
Could of been slightly worse I suppose. Ackerman holds onto the points jersey by 1pt. ;)

Aragonite [TORA TORA TORA] Tuesday 21.May 18:14, 2019
26th FC-manager overall
You obviously put Ackerman in your team too goon. :) The guy is singlehandedly destroying my Giro this year. :)

goon1221 [] Tuesday 21.May 17:44, 2019
19th FC-manager overall
To pick a rider for your fantasy team, is to put a gun to his head and pull the trigger :D

guest4126 [team_guest4126] Monday 20.May 17:35, 2019
Is Acorn dumb or something? Nibali* Primoz* Supermann*

Acorn [Acorn] Monday 20.May 17:32, 2019
Hey @goon1221, I love EPO. It is very good for you. No Ali will win sow good. Primrose Roglic is too early and Yates is frail. Suprmann is too far behind already.

Aragonite [TORA TORA TORA] Monday 20.May 16:25, 2019
26th FC-manager overall
Mimicry is the highest form of flattery, or so they say goon. :)

Tomas [Second Coming] Monday 20.May 13:42, 2019
13th FC-manager overall - 20th FC-manager last 6 weeks
Had todo some clean up i comments...

guest4126 [team_guest4126] Monday 20.May 12:49, 2019
Landa is love but he makes me angry.

Koronin [Koronin] Monday 20.May 01:57, 2019
My guess with Movistar is they should put their resources behind Carapaz (because he does have a shot at top 5 and maybe an outside shot at the final podium spot). However, I will also guess that Landa will still have a free role.

Aragonite [TORA TORA TORA] Monday 20.May 00:17, 2019
26th FC-manager overall
Just read Axelgaard's review of stage 9. Nice to see he agrees with me about early attacks next week, perhaps it's about time I stopped writing for Feltet using my pseudonym:) Don't understand why he puts so much faith on the times recorded on the uphill section, when it included a nasty 2k going downhill in the middle. It was this part of the run that was probably as much responsible for Lopez, and Yates recording poor times. Lopez is not the greatest bike handler, seeming to come off the bike a lot more than other top riders. Yates had a couple of early scares on the flat when the rain was really bad, and maybe lost confidence. Wouldn't be surprised if both eased off, choosing to lose a little time, rather than a lot of time and a possible Giro ending injury.

Aragonite [TORA TORA TORA] Sunday 19.May 23:11, 2019
26th FC-manager overall
Today's ITT could lead to a real treat for us fans once we get the two sprint stages out of the way. Several of the big pre favourites lost so much time today that the only way back for them is to go onto the font foot and start the attacks sooner, rather than later. Can't wait. :)

johnpnewman [Road Rash] Sunday 19.May 20:21, 2019
With his current position and his climbing skills, Carapaz has a decent chance of finishing on the too 5 again this year. For Movistar at this point, supporting Carapaz has to be a no-brainer. Astana on the other hand, is a different issue.

goon1221 [] Sunday 19.May 17:50, 2019
19th FC-manager overall
Carapaz was 3rd best uphill today, so yes they do

Koronin [Koronin] Sunday 19.May 17:41, 2019
Does Astana switch to riding for Bilbao now. The bigger question is does Movistar even have a GC rider at this point?
By the way Landa was very happy with his ITT today.

goon1221 [] Sunday 19.May 17:41, 2019
19th FC-manager overall
Lopez almost 3 minutes behind Bilbao ... what will Astana do now ? Same question to Movistar :D
Yates over 3 minutes behind Roglic ... after expectations the biggest looser of the day ... but everybody looks bad except Roglic today :D ... kudos to Mollema and Kangert though ... Hugh Carthy also ...

Tomas [Second Coming] Sunday 19.May 11:07, 2019
13th FC-manager overall - 20th FC-manager last 6 weeks
Will be opened up during the day.

johnpnewman [Road Rash] Sunday 19.May 04:36, 2019
When will we be able to update our teams?

Aragonite [TORA TORA TORA] Saturday 18.May 17:05, 2019
26th FC-manager overall
It 's still on LS's twitter feed, and it's a little ambiguous, but not anywhere else. I'm guessing they have got it wrong. But we shall soon find out. :)

goon1221 [] Saturday 18.May 16:48, 2019
19th FC-manager overall
I hear now there was a request about it in the morning, but it was rejected ... maybe second thoughts now ?

goon1221 [] Saturday 18.May 16:45, 2019
19th FC-manager overall
Aaaaaand it starts raining :D

goon1221 [] Saturday 18.May 16:23, 2019
19th FC-manager overall
So the clock stops at 3 km mark ?
Not the usual flat stage sprint thing they got going ?
Sounds very very strange ... dry roads and nothing special except a tricky downhill ... I hope you're wrong about this Aragonite

Aragonite [TORA TORA TORA] Saturday 18.May 15:55, 2019
26th FC-manager overall
Lotto Soudal tweeted there will be a neutralisation with 3k to go, as happened three stages back. A bit boring if true.

goon1221 [] Saturday 18.May 15:21, 2019
19th FC-manager overall
Some serious Sanremo associations today :D ... long, easy and lumpy in the end with a tricky downhill ... I guess Nibali is sharp today :D

Francisco [K92-Team Neverland] Friday 17.May 15:32, 2019
Conti's pink jersey blowing Ulissi's goals... :(

Francisco [K92-Team Neverland] Friday 17.May 15:29, 2019
Well he will be isolated it seems but he's an attacker, so... :)

Aragonite [TORA TORA TORA] Friday 17.May 14:56, 2019
26th FC-manager overall
Very much so. Would of been his main man for the mountains.

Andy [Luxembourg Finest] Friday 17.May 14:45, 2019
That one hurts for Roglic

Aragonite [TORA TORA TORA] Friday 17.May 14:39, 2019
26th FC-manager overall
De Plus DNF.

Aragonite [TORA TORA TORA] Friday 17.May 14:12, 2019
26th FC-manager overall
Gaviria DNF.

Aragonite [TORA TORA TORA] Friday 17.May 13:51, 2019
26th FC-manager overall
This is more like the Giro. ;)

sker [Team Paracarri] Thursday 16.May 21:01, 2019
yes Conti can keep it until stage 13 if he does a good chrono and is helped by the whole team on stage 12

Erythropoietin [Erythropoietin] Thursday 16.May 18:23, 2019
12th FC-manager overall - 10th FC-manager last 6 weeks

Erythropoietin [Erythropoietin] Thursday 16.May 18:14, 2019
12th FC-manager overall - 10th FC-manager last 6 weeks

Aragonite [TORA TORA TORA] Thursday 16.May 17:33, 2019
26th FC-manager overall
Can see Conti keeping the lead until stage 13.

goon1221 [] Thursday 16.May 17:32, 2019
19th FC-manager overall
Who dare predict leader after ITT now :D

Aragonite [TORA TORA TORA] Thursday 16.May 17:02, 2019
26th FC-manager overall
After stage 7 we are going to have one of the strangest top tens in a GT GC for a long time. :)

Aragonite [TORA TORA TORA] Wednesday 15.May 18:18, 2019
26th FC-manager overall
What next then? Breakaway win for the next two stages?

Aragonite [TORA TORA TORA] Wednesday 15.May 17:53, 2019
26th FC-manager overall
If so there will be a long queue to get his signature.

Andy [Luxembourg Finest] Wednesday 15.May 17:51, 2019
Yeah, I also think so. But difficult to tell Sagan that he is no main-sprinter for the races he wants to race ;) And think Bennett may leave at the end of this season to get more own chances at the biggest races.

Aragonite [TORA TORA TORA] Wednesday 15.May 17:48, 2019
26th FC-manager overall
Both have to be well ahead of Sagan when it comes to pure sprinting.

Andy [Luxembourg Finest] Wednesday 15.May 17:47, 2019
It was, but with Bennett splendid season so far, there were some who wanted him in here.

goon1221 [] Wednesday 15.May 17:42, 2019
19th FC-manager overall
Not at all ... btw... I think it was always ment for Ackermann to do Giro and not Bennett ?

Andy [Luxembourg Finest] Wednesday 15.May 17:41, 2019
Don't think Bora is missing Sam Bennett here after all

goon1221 [] Wednesday 15.May 17:39, 2019
19th FC-manager overall
Very likable guy ... joyfull :D ... and a GREAT sprinter

Aragonite [TORA TORA TORA] Wednesday 15.May 17:37, 2019
26th FC-manager overall
Fast going off this giggly German. :)

Andy [Luxembourg Finest] Wednesday 15.May 17:23, 2019
At least they got the nice weather they had wanted today :)

Aragonite [TORA TORA TORA] Wednesday 15.May 17:20, 2019
26th FC-manager overall
This has to be the dullest start to a Giro I can remember. Normally there would be battles to make the breakaway, and it would be hell for leather to the finish. This year is much more like the start of the Tour.

Aragonite [TORA TORA TORA] Wednesday 15.May 14:39, 2019
26th FC-manager overall
Thanks sker.

goon1221 [] Wednesday 15.May 14:11, 2019
19th FC-manager overall
Oh that went fast ... TomDum abonden

goon1221 [] Wednesday 15.May 14:02, 2019
19th FC-manager overall
TomDum starts the stage at least ... hope he's okay

sker [Team Paracarri] Wednesday 15.May 05:20, 2019
Puto in spanish is jerk more or less: probably slightly more offensive

Aragonite [TORA TORA TORA] Tuesday 14.May 23:03, 2019
26th FC-manager overall
That is what being weaned on black pudding does for you. :) Be interested to know what 'puto' means, bet it's not complimentary. :)

Assassin [Troy The Trader] Tuesday 14.May 22:50, 2019
25th FC-manager overall
He was informed Simon was from Bury and backed off immediately :D

Aragonite [TORA TORA TORA] Tuesday 14.May 22:24, 2019
26th FC-manager overall
Mikel Landa remark about Simon Yates immediately after todays finish, 'Yates is a puto. He is retarded, and completely insane. He lifted me off my bike at a roundabout'. Landa later apologised. :)

Aragonite [TORA TORA TORA] Tuesday 14.May 18:12, 2019
26th FC-manager overall
To be honest having any margin creates its own problems with the bunching caused by teams trying to get there GC riders up there. Could be better getting rid of it completely in my opinion.

MiguelSimoes 35 [Pro Cycling Team 35] Tuesday 14.May 18:02, 2019
Thats one of the reasons why the 3km margin should be bigger... With a race like this, Dumoulin (and others, he is the more flagrant case) could never recover time when he get bike in the bike

MiguelSimoes 35 [Pro Cycling Team 35] Tuesday 14.May 18:00, 2019
Giro is over for Dumoulin... 4' down and a lacerated knee

Aragonite [TORA TORA TORA] Tuesday 14.May 18:00, 2019
26th FC-manager overall
Neither could Roglic.

goon1221 [] Tuesday 14.May 17:59, 2019
19th FC-manager overall
Carapaz couldn't be happier after losing 46 sec yesterday ...

goon1221 [] Tuesday 14.May 17:57, 2019
19th FC-manager overall
Okey ... thanks ... not that bad

Aragonite [TORA TORA TORA] Tuesday 14.May 17:53, 2019
26th FC-manager overall
Finished about 40secs down I think.

goon1221 [] Tuesday 14.May 17:53, 2019
19th FC-manager overall
Carapaz win today was a HUGE bonus for my GC team .... where's Landa by the way ?

Aragonite [TORA TORA TORA] Tuesday 14.May 17:43, 2019
26th FC-manager overall
Shame about the crash. Looking at the top six, today it wasn't far off the perfect parcours, sprinters, puncheurs, and GC men all in with a chance at the finish.

Andy [Luxembourg Finest] Tuesday 14.May 15:32, 2019
Absolutely not :)

Aragonite [TORA TORA TORA] Tuesday 14.May 15:27, 2019
26th FC-manager overall
Is that you being ageist towards me Andy? :)

Andy [Luxembourg Finest] Tuesday 14.May 15:20, 2019
When can we expect to see your along the route?

Aragonite [TORA TORA TORA] Tuesday 14.May 15:11, 2019
26th FC-manager overall
So many beautiful, historic towns and cities to be seen along the Giro route. Keep expecting to see a dragon doing a flypast. :)

Viktor86 [Le Tour de Brabant] Tuesday 14.May 04:27, 2019
Than it would probably the first time in years that a negative score on the extra classifications are a real punishment. Most deductions I have seen are from OTL riders who were allowed to start anyway, on expense of KOM and sprint classifications, which are in many cases domestiques with zero chance on points in the first place.

MiguelSimoes 35 [Pro Cycling Team 35] Monday 13.May 19:28, 2019
Sure! Worst than the DQ is that he "won" -50pts for the Maglia Ciclamino, so his hopes of another win at that classification are over.

The DQ is strict but acceptable... If I was a comissary, I wouldnt vote for DQ, but thas ok... There is a rule, and each one reads it as he wants. But lose 50pts for the Maglia Ciclamino... I have no words... 3rd day and they start to play with cycling, lets see what happen in the next days

Aragonite [TORA TORA TORA] Monday 13.May 18:46, 2019
26th FC-manager overall
Seen it again. Moschetti was impeded. Do think if the rules were applied every time an incident similar to todays occurred there would be a lot more DQ's.

Aragonite [TORA TORA TORA] Monday 13.May 18:08, 2019
26th FC-manager overall
Moschetti never stopped peddling

Andy [Luxembourg Finest] Monday 13.May 18:05, 2019
For me it looks strict, but fair. Moschetti has to stop his sprint, and cannot say I am surprised by the decision.

Aragonite [TORA TORA TORA] Monday 13.May 18:03, 2019
26th FC-manager overall
Looks tough on Viviani. Not anything in that for me.

Andy [Luxembourg Finest] Monday 13.May 17:55, 2019
Looks like Viviani got relegated. I understand the reason behind that, but not sure the Italians like the decision.

Francisco [K92-Team Neverland] Sunday 12.May 18:10, 2019
Well, there goes my theory of Viviani-2 and Gaviria-1... :)
Superb work from Bora but still some room for my sprinters to score big! :)

goon1221 [] Sunday 12.May 17:25, 2019
19th FC-manager overall
Every time tried to put sprinters on my manager team, ( Viviani, Ewan and Gaviria ) there was one disturbing name on the start list ... Pascal Ackermann ... so I droped them all :D
What a sprinter this guy has become ... Greipel and Kittel is all forgotten... Germany have a new sprinter king

Viktor86 [Le Tour de Brabant] Sunday 12.May 07:25, 2019
The first questionable Japanese dude of Nippo is already gone. Those guys clearly only compete, because of the Japanese sponsor. Based on the CQ rankings of the previous season they are always the weakest competitors in the Giro. Even worse: more often than not they have 0 points, a.k.a. 0 results. Not even the weakest European starters are that weak.

The only other starters to potentially have that are returning riders from long term bans, long term injuries or promotions from the juniors (e.g. Evenepoel had 0 pts). All fairly good reasons.

Francisco [K92-Team Neverland] Saturday 11.May 21:02, 2019
Expecting not less than two wins to Viviani, two to Ulissi and another to Gaviria this first week... :D
Andiamo ragazzi!!!

goon1221 [] Saturday 11.May 20:31, 2019
19th FC-manager overall
Roglic on fire since March, and obviously in top form now ... yeah... if he keeps this up in 3 weeks without at least one bad day .... well, that would just be something else :D
What speaks for him, is the fact that this year's course is not that hard ... but then again, it will depend of how hard the field does it ... even on paper easy stages, can be brutal if the field want it to be ... so we'll see how it goes

Andy [Luxembourg Finest] Saturday 11.May 19:57, 2019
Could be top 5 in Verona that, in a different order of course since Roglic obviously comes in too good form

Aragonite [TORA TORA TORA] Saturday 11.May 19:56, 2019
26th FC-manager overall
What a classy first five.

Aragonite [TORA TORA TORA] Saturday 11.May 17:27, 2019
26th FC-manager overall
EF strutting their stuff in another ITT.

goon1221 [] Saturday 11.May 17:19, 2019
19th FC-manager overall
TomDum not at his best from start ... that much is clear ... and Roglic is not done making jokes :D

Andy [Luxembourg Finest] Saturday 11.May 17:18, 2019
Fun with TT where we know the winner with 3 hours left

Partykjeppen [Il Piccolo Gregari] Saturday 11.May 17:14, 2019
Good luck to all, I’m betting on Viviani and Ewan due to their leadouts and potentially better climbing legs for those lumpier days next week. Now watch Gaviria be as imperious as in 2017 ;)

Aragonite [TORA TORA TORA] Saturday 11.May 13:09, 2019
26th FC-manager overall
Suffering from severe fantasy cycling withdrawals. Can't wait for this to start. #excited as a kid at Christmas

Aragonite [TORA TORA TORA] Saturday 11.May 12:45, 2019
26th FC-manager overall
And FDJ and Ludvigsson. :) Still time to change that 9/0 goon. ;) I'm now back on 6/3, and feel comfortable ISH about it. :)

goon1221 [] Saturday 11.May 10:39, 2019
19th FC-manager overall
So maybe MS is pretty smart here ... alot of time to study riders, bikechandes and what not ...

goon1221 [] Saturday 11.May 10:38, 2019
19th FC-manager overall
According to ( pretty accurate is my experience ) ... the weatherforecast during the timetrail will be 4 mps ( headwind ) for all, and the rain will come in just about the time Puccio ( last man on course ) crosses the finishline ....

Partykjeppen [Il Piccolo Gregari] Saturday 11.May 09:58, 2019
I'm ready! Added bonus for today is that I stayed a night in Bologna a few years ago, lovely city! Also the site of my first and last Kvass.

goon1221 [] Saturday 11.May 09:38, 2019
19th FC-manager overall
Well guys ... last chance to ruin your teams ... I went from 7/2 to 9/0 .... let's see how that goes :D

Aragonite [TORA TORA TORA] Saturday 11.May 01:22, 2019
26th FC-manager overall
Cheeky few quid each way on Tobias Ludvigsson for tomorrows ITT at the not too small odds of 800/1. That and Kangert, Polanc, and Knox each to finish top 10 on GC at odds of 7/1,12/1, and 14/1 respectively to keep some interest into the third week hopefully. My only bets on the Giro. So far. :)

goon1221 [] Friday 10.May 14:49, 2019
19th FC-manager overall
All the big favourites starts really early tomorrow ... except Yates who starts 3rd last ( a little strange since the wind is suppose to increase ) ... TomDum out first

Andy [Luxembourg Finest] Friday 10.May 13:53, 2019
No surprise that no changes on startlist except final bib numbers :)

Partykjeppen [Il Piccolo Gregari] Friday 10.May 09:15, 2019
Thanks Bart! Now lets get those numbers up!

BartVelo [BartVelo] Friday 10.May 00:26, 2019
Partykjeppen [Il Piccolo Gregari] Thursday 9.May 15:46, 2019
BartVelo - do you have a Wierelkenner-league for us?

--> it's up now, sorry for the late arrival of it :-)

Jspear [Jspear] Thursday 9.May 20:25, 2019
UAE won't be supporting Aru though....

Aragonite [TORA TORA TORA] Thursday 9.May 19:37, 2019
26th FC-manager overall
Caleb is the one I have nailed on. :) Can see him being involved in more finishes than the others.

goon1221 [] Thursday 9.May 19:30, 2019
19th FC-manager overall
Yeah ... But pretty convincing performance by Ewan in Hatta Dam earlier this season makes him a pretty clear second choice i think ... But then a new problem comes along ... who's my 7th GC guy ... Jungels, Carapaz, Pozzovivo, Ion ? ... maybe one of the young guns from Ineos ... Formolo, Majka, Zakarin ?? Oh my god :D

Aragonite [TORA TORA TORA] Thursday 9.May 19:25, 2019
26th FC-manager overall
I have one nailed on. But then there are four others I'm finding difficult to split. Plus I keep wanting Cimolai. :) Seems easiest to drop them all, bar one.

goon1221 [] Thursday 9.May 19:19, 2019
19th FC-manager overall
The golden mean is two Aragonite ... like i go for :D

Aragonite [TORA TORA TORA] Thursday 9.May 19:12, 2019
26th FC-manager overall
Changed my GC/Sprinter split from 6/3 to 8/1. Plenty time for further alterations though. :)

Tomas [Second Coming] Thursday 9.May 17:17, 2019
13th FC-manager overall - 20th FC-manager last 6 weeks
We defo need that!

Partykjeppen [Il Piccolo Gregari] Thursday 9.May 15:46, 2019
BartVelo - do you have a Wierelkenner-league for us?

goon1221 [] Thursday 9.May 10:20, 2019
19th FC-manager overall
Nibali is also an option of course... if he find his best climbing legs ... and it wouldn't surprise me much if he does

goon1221 [] Thursday 9.May 10:18, 2019
19th FC-manager overall
If i could give Yates an advice, i would tell him to try to make a deal with Lopez and Landa ... work together on the most crucial climbs in week 3 ... not fight eachother but try to outclimb Roglic and TomDum ( this will for sure work against TomDum, but Roglic is an whole other story ... he is thinkable to attack in stead of defending the TT buffer :D ... but, and this is an answer to quist here, Roglic has been on fire whole year, and is actually likely to have a bad day in the end of this race ) ... and then they can fight among eachother on the last mountain stage with the top finish... if they're all in position for podium ...

Partykjeppen [Il Piccolo Gregari] Thursday 9.May 00:05, 2019
Sheesh this Giro is backloaded. Roglic coming in too hot?

Andy [Luxembourg Finest] Wednesday 8.May 22:16, 2019
Early they did it this time :P

Assassin [Troy The Trader] Wednesday 8.May 21:17, 2019
25th FC-manager overall
I think the Startlist can be considered as Final with EF just announcing their squad.

sker [Team Paracarri] Wednesday 8.May 18:44, 2019
Not so straightforward to choose between 6-3 or 7-2 here or even a 6-2-1 with a top stage hunter already in week 1. many tricky stages early in the race I think

Andy [Luxembourg Finest] Wednesday 8.May 14:28, 2019
Mikel Landa strongest climber in 2017, which was a contract year. Same this year so hope to see him rocking the Giro with bib 1

goon1221 [] Wednesday 8.May 14:22, 2019
19th FC-manager overall
It sure is ... but that was a bad one :D ... I mean, at that point, the by far strongest climber in the world went down ... and nobody knew :D ... we and he i guess, found that out in week 2 and 3 :D

Andy [Luxembourg Finest] Wednesday 8.May 14:11, 2019
Easy to say things like that afterwards, luck is part of the game either we like it or not.

Aragonite [TORA TORA TORA] Wednesday 8.May 14:07, 2019
26th FC-manager overall
Looks so easy this year. The six obvious GC guys. Then Caleb, Vivianii, and Gaviria to start with. Boring I suppose, only hard part is putting them in the most effective positions.

goon1221 [] Wednesday 8.May 14:04, 2019
19th FC-manager overall
I think you would have won the 2017 edition Andy ... if it wasn't for this moron motorbike guy :D ...

Andy [Luxembourg Finest] Wednesday 8.May 14:02, 2019
43 - 28 - 6 - 5 - 37 - 21 - 6 - 35 here. Better than I expected before I checked, but nothing that brilliant since I only count wins which does not happens very often anymore.

goon1221 [] Wednesday 8.May 14:00, 2019
19th FC-manager overall
He didn't though ... he replaced Moscon actually ....

goon1221 [] Wednesday 8.May 13:59, 2019
19th FC-manager overall
I THINK the winner of this years game is the one with a senseble team and though and lucky enough to pick the right Ineos guy on a high ranking... Sivakov, Sosa or Hart ...
I should pick Sosa, since he was my first guess of who's gonna replace Bernal :D

Assassin [Troy The Trader] Wednesday 8.May 13:59, 2019
25th FC-manager overall
A 19th, 23rd and a 30th - I am the Brice Feillu of the Giro.

Aragonite [TORA TORA TORA] Wednesday 8.May 13:56, 2019
26th FC-manager overall
Looked at mine. Too embarrassing to make public. :)

goon1221 [] Wednesday 8.May 10:22, 2019
19th FC-manager overall
Nice consistency .... can't say the same :D 

2015 (20th)
2016 (4th) 
2017 (78th) ... should have won or at least podium .. had low pick Landa and Thomas on my team ... and we all know how that went :D 
2018 (50th) ... 
2019 (?) ... 

LosBrolin [JuhaMieto] Wednesday 8.May 08:52, 2019
21th FC-manager overall
My record here :

2018 (7th)
2017 (5th)
2016 (11th)
2015 (7th)

I'm the Majka/Mollema of FC-Giro

goon1221 [] Tuesday 7.May 22:38, 2019
19th FC-manager overall
Liverpool 4 0 now ... I think they need 1 more ...

Andy [Luxembourg Finest] Tuesday 7.May 20:39, 2019
I think a combination of both short and long mountain stages is the correct thing to do.

Assassin [Troy The Trader] Tuesday 7.May 19:00, 2019
25th FC-manager overall
You think this is tough, wait till you see Andy's plan for the TDF and the use of a particular climb known as the Col Du Jandri...

sker [Team Paracarri] Tuesday 7.May 18:48, 2019
Short mountain stages are far better than long and super hard one. If the stage is too hard it's just attrition war until the very final km, make it slightly easier and you have attacks early ;)

Andy [Luxembourg Finest] Tuesday 7.May 16:16, 2019
I could put a short Crostis - Zoncolan stage yes just to make the race a bit human

Tomas [Second Coming] Tuesday 7.May 16:16, 2019
13th FC-manager overall - 20th FC-manager last 6 weeks
And for the rest of the week you would have all stages under 80 km ?

Andy [Luxembourg Finest] Tuesday 7.May 16:11, 2019
The riders should be happy that I am still not in charge of parcours in any race ;) Would easy put out some crazy Umbrail - Mortirolo - Gavia - Stelvio combo on same stage.

Aragonite [TORA TORA TORA] Tuesday 7.May 15:53, 2019
26th FC-manager overall
Two stages with over 5,000 altitude meters, and another with almost 6,000 altitude meters. Holy moly. :)

goon1221 [] Tuesday 7.May 15:12, 2019
19th FC-manager overall
A sacret moment guys ... first GT course description of the year :))

Koronin [Koronin] Saturday 4.May 22:13, 2019
That's now two stars out of the Giro due to injuries from training crashes.
I'm just going to say I'm really glad my switche for season fantasy for the GIro were adding Roglic, Dumoulin, Nibali and S. Yates. At least one of them has to do something. Plus I have Kuss on my team who was supposed to race California, but due to Geschke's injury is headed to the Giro.

Aragonite [TORA TORA TORA] Saturday 4.May 20:54, 2019
26th FC-manager overall
Bernal out. I'm probably not alone in just bringing him in for the Season Fantasy game. More points for my other Giro GC picks I suppose. Looking on the bright side. :)

Partykjeppen [Il Piccolo Gregari] Saturday 4.May 20:08, 2019

Tomas [Second Coming] Saturday 4.May 20:04, 2019
13th FC-manager overall - 20th FC-manager last 6 weeks
Gonna be interesting to follow their young guns from Tour of the Alps here now - Pavel Sivakov and Tao Georghegan Hart. Reckon they'll have a rather free role.

Assassin [Troy The Trader] Saturday 4.May 19:58, 2019
25th FC-manager overall
Skineos will indeed.

Erythropoietin [Erythropoietin] Saturday 4.May 19:54, 2019
12th FC-manager overall - 10th FC-manager last 6 weeks
So now Sky/Ineos will have the 3 strongest riders in the Tour

Andy [Luxembourg Finest] Saturday 4.May 19:42, 2019
Correct, lumpy roads in Andorra this year it seems

Partykjeppen [Il Piccolo Gregari] Saturday 4.May 19:33, 2019
Bummer - crashed in training?

zcoolman [Cranksmashers] Saturday 4.May 19:29, 2019
Bernal out with a broken collarbone.

Koronin [Koronin] Friday 3.May 22:15, 2019
Valverde officially announced he's not going to the Giro. Due to the injury he is suffering from, it's not surprising. Sad, but not surprising. The injury he has takes a minimum of 3 weeks to recover from, and he was trying to do that in a week and a half which just isn't possible. The more average time to recover from the injury is closer to 6-8 weeks. It's really unlikely he'll be any kind of shape to even start racing again until the National Championships. I just really hope and pray the team doesn't try to send him to the Tour. If they do expect what we got from him last year, which was a rider showing up well out of race shape intentionally to protest his being forced to go to a race he doesn't want to be at.

Partykjeppen [Il Piccolo Gregari] Friday 3.May 10:53, 2019
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sinal [sinal cycling team] Friday 3.May 09:48, 2019
6th FC-manager overall - 13th FC-manager last 6 weeks
Valverde is out.

Koronin [Koronin] Wednesday 1.May 20:29, 2019
LOL @ goon, somehow I don't think that's the reason, although it definitely managed that. They never even said he had crashed in training until after he abandoned LBL. The reason I actually had pulled him off my LBL team was because he had already had a nightmare of a season leading up to that point and for the first time ever I just didn't trust him.

goon1221 [] Wednesday 1.May 09:52, 2019
19th FC-manager overall
To make life CRAP for any fantasy player out there Koronin :D

Koronin [Koronin] Tuesday 30.Apr 20:31, 2019
Just a heads up, Valverde may end up not racing the Giro due to the injury from his training crash before LBL. He hurt his tailbone and has bone edema in the sacrum. So even if he does race, I would be very hesitant to include him on any team due to this injury. Also not sure why they haven't just scratched him from the Giro roster as it is, as I'm not sure he should be racing it with the injury. Then again I don't understand why they didn't get him the x-ray last week AND how he was ever allowed to even race LBL with the injury he has.

Koronin [Koronin] Saturday 27.Apr 00:49, 2019
I think they are actually both a little better on lumpy TT courses than on flat ones, espcially Roglic. Plus with 3 ITTs, that helps them.

goon1221 [] Friday 26.Apr 22:55, 2019
19th FC-manager overall
But i agree ... in the world's TomDum, and aspesically Roglic would prefer a lumpy course rather than a flat one against Dennis and Campenaerts for example

goon1221 [] Friday 26.Apr 22:44, 2019
19th FC-manager overall
So if TomDum could choos profile on the timetrail here, he would have them lumpy like this rather then flat ?
You are thinking of the world's Korononin ... this is a GT against better climber than he is ... the flatter the better for TomDum of course... same goes for guys like Roglic and Jungels ...

Koronin [Koronin] Friday 26.Apr 21:12, 2019
Roglic and Dumoulin are very good on those type of TT courses. I think those are actually better for Dumoulin than a flat TT course. However, that type of course is much better for Yates and Nibali.

goon1221 [] Friday 26.Apr 18:35, 2019
19th FC-manager overall
Pretty lumpy TT kilometers... an advantage for the pure climbers I will say ... at least won't TomDum and Roglic get to use their power as much as if they were all flat ... interesting ... could be a close race between top 6 favourites ... TomDum, Bernal, Yates, Nibali, Lopez and Roglic ... maybe Landa find his best form ... I CAN'T WAIT for this :D

Koronin [Koronin] Monday 24.Dec 23:34, 2018
It appears that a large number of the top GC riders are headed to the Giro this year. Should make for an interesting race.

Partykjeppen [Il Piccolo Gregari] Friday 21.Dec 13:47, 2018
Lacking a few medium mountain days for me, on the other hand stage 14 looks perfect for a long-range attack. Can we bring back Contador for this one?

zKobalt [FruitnOats] Thursday 1.Nov 08:41, 2018
No mountains until the 2nd half, could make a very interesting manager game

Koronin [Koronin] Thursday 1.Nov 01:19, 2018
It could be better, but it could be worse as well. I think it should be a decent Giro. As for the sprinters, that seems fairly typical that there is no reason for them to stick around for the last week.

Erythropoietin [Erythropoietin] Wednesday 31.Oct 22:50, 2018
12th FC-manager overall - 10th FC-manager last 6 weeks
Route unveiled today. Three time trials. Tom Dumoulin will like that. All of them hilly :O
No mountains until stage 13, but the sprinters don't have much reason to keep riding after stage 11.